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Fascist and Third Position Books FashBO##yWPIHb 08/28/2019 (Wed) 22:41:41 ID: 024e41 No.5 [Reply] [Last]
Post good works that you've read and ask for recommendations ITT.

The list below only consists of works that I myself have personally read. If anybody can vouch for any other good works, let me know!

BASIC READING LIST
National Socialism (NSDAP):

>Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler
There are many editions of this book, of course. The best are Thomas Dalton’s new translation and of course Stalag. I’ve also read Manheim and didn’t think it was too bad, but it’s a little too wordy and is translated by a Jew
>Zweites Buch by Adolf Hitler
>The Program of the NSDAP by Gottfried Feder
>The Manifesto for the Breaking of Interest Slavery by Gottfried Feder

Black Front / Strasserism:
>German Tomorrow by Dr. Otto Strasser
>Deutschlands Erneuerung by Dr. Otto Strasser (in German only)

Iron Guard / Romanian Fascism:
>For my Legionaries by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu

British Union of Fascists (BUF):
>Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered by Oswald Mosley
>Tomorrow We Live by Oswald Mosley
>My Life by Oswald Mosley
>Fascism v. Jewry by William Joyce
>National Socialism Now by William Joyce
>The Coming Corporate State by A. Raven Thompson

Italian Fascism:
>Origins and Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile
>CasaPound Italia platform: http://www.casapounditalia.org/p/who-we-are.html

JSTOR Articles I've read on more obscure groups with little available material in English:
>Ação Integralista Brasileira: Fascism in Brazil, 1932-1938 by Stanley E. Hilton
>Integralism and the Brazilian Catholic Church by Margaret Todaro Williams
>The Chilean Movimiento Nacional Socialista, the German-Chilean Community, and the Third Reich, 1932-1939: Myth and Reality by Marcus Klein
>Nazism in Chile: A Particular Type of Fascism in South America by Jaime Antonio Etchepare and Hamish L. Stewart
>A Case of Non-European Fascism: Chilean National Socialism in the 1930s by Mario Sznajder
>Fascism and Sinarquismo: Popular Nationalisms Against the Mexican Revolution by Albert L. Michaels

Cultured Thug is also a good YouTube channel for overviews of fascist literature:
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/cultured_thug/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFVf_ACP5I8VF5VsmSDQ8tQ

Helpful Links:
https://sci-hub.tw/
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
https://archive.org/
https://www.bitchute.com/cultured_thug/
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Mussolini's Intellectuals by James A Gregor Hurrah for the Blackshirts by Martin Pugh A History of Fascism by Stanley Payne
is Carl Schmitt's books considered canon for fascism?
>>4921 Some are like Crisis of Parlimentary Democracy.
I posted this in our ecofascism thread as well but I figured it get more visibility here. Here’s some background on this guy, who was a friend of Mosley and a fascist: >>5171

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads FashBO##yWPIHb 08/28/2019 (Wed) 22:55:22 ID: 5b336c No.9 [Reply] [Last]
Self-explanatory. If you have a one-liner question won't generate much discussion and isn't related to moderation or requests, post it here.
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>>5142 Nice, thank you anon.
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>>5157 Eh, we had it on the old board. It’s very easy to tell who is merely more socialistic and who is an honest-to-God shill – just look at the image I posted here: >>5095, which was based off a real poster who called himself a “social nationalist”, instantly giving himself away by attacking Hitler every chance he got and pushing Marxist doctrines.
>>5112 I am not really familiar with that flag or what it stands for. What is it meant to represent?
>>5161 It’s related to Dugin and his Euranist Party / 4th Political Theory. It defines itself as some sort of socially conservative “traditionalist communist” party wanting to make some sort of Eurasian superstate. He is very close to Putin and sucks his circumcised cock all day – remember that Putin has made Russia extremely Jew- friendly under his role and is surrounded by rabbis and Noahide shills like Chabad-Lubavitch. Likewise his Wiki page has not a single occurence of the word “Jew”. If he was J-critical they’d never let him live it down.

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Rules / Moderation / Request / Meta Blackshirt 08/28/2019 (Wed) 22:34:09 ID: b3b0b3 No.1 [Reply] [Last]
WELCOME TO /FASCIST/, PLEASE READ RULES BEFORE POSTING Our bunkers: https://fatpeople.lol/fascist/index.html (primary) https://neinchan.com/fascist/catalog.html Welcome to the new location of /fascist/ on JulayWorld! /fascist/ is a board for discussion of fascism in its various manifestations and, in a more general sense, third-position ideology (e.g. Strasserism, etc) and positions that fall outside of the /pol/ - /leftypol/ dichotomy. Though this board is centered around the discussion of fascist movements, leaders and ideology, everybody is permitted to post here regardless of political beliefs, as long as they debate in good faith. Non-fascists and opposing beliefs of all kinds are welcome as long as they respect the rules of this board! This thread will also serve as a thread for requests to moderation, banners and general bitching BOARD RULES 1. Global rules apply 2. No spam, no flooding, serial double- / triple-posting in the same thread within a short period of time will result in a short ban 3. No fedposting* 4. No avatarfagging without reason 5. No pornography (non-sexualized nudity permitted) 6. Gore should be spoiled and relevant to the topic if posted 7. No self-advertising outside of specifically designated threads. No Disc.ord shilling, period. 8. Threads with basic questions not conductive to discussion should go in the QTDDTOT >>9

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>>4980 It’s nothing that I’ve done. The only reason you’d ever have to solve a captcha here on /fascist/ would be if more than three or four threads had been posted in an hour. I’ve noticed I’ve been getting periodic captchas on other boards as well, it must be some sort of new thing site-wide. I’ll double check settings here though.
>>4982 Kek I actually got a captcha myself
>>4983 Some retard was spamming /cow/ and /meta/ from a bunch of proxies, this was the most effective way of stopping it.
>>4983 Robi activated site wide captcha after spam of 1750 post under 5min by dolphin nigger aka luke.
>>4986 >>4985 Ah, that makes sense. I’m sure it won’t last long, just like how the ban of image-posting for Tor only lasted like a week

Unpopular Opinions Blackshirt 09/11/2019 (Wed) 15:01:16 ID: 44881c No.87 [Reply] [Last]
Post your unpopular opinions here
Me:
>Islam is actually pretty based and Islam minus Africanization would be a net benefit to the West
>there is nothing wrong with having more than one wife
>Tarrant is overrated
>Hitler had no chance of winning, but was still based overall
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>>5104 Thank you anon i will check these out, if the worst happens and it truly is the end then hopefully we will go out with a bang and not a whimper.
>>4958 (meant to get back to this sooner) yes, Ashoka and Hitler were based. >I have of course no desire to force my beliefs onto the entire planet and all people regardless of race and quality like Abrahamists do, but I think that it is their zealotry has granted them much success in spreading all over the Earth and stomping out other traditions. Abrahamic faiths have certain inherent qualities -- the claim that they are the one and only truth, rejection of other belief systems, and xenophobic aggression by way of direct violence and/or subversion. much like Marxism, they are ideological viruses that want to infect the whole world, and the viral strategy must not be underestimated, given its deadly effectiveness in the natural world. as an aside, our own meme magic is essentially based on the viral strategies of proliferation, mutation, and recombination. >It's no coincidence at all that the only major religious purge to take place that readily comes to mind done by non-Abrahamics is on Abrahamics, i.e. in Tokugawa Japan when Christians were quite literally purged for being subversives: even though I was raised Catholic, I always thought Edo Japan was based for this. they were valiantly defending their culture, and this was one of the few times in history when a religion was defeated without being actively subjugated/displaced by another religion (eg Islamic conquest of Zoroastrianism, Christian conquest of Paganism, etc). even so, Japanese Christianity survived underground among kakure kirishitans, or Hidden Christians, who practiced an amalgamated form of Catholicism with Eastern influences. their strange scriptures are known as the Beginning of Heaven and Earth, and there's a documentary on the surviving remnants; an interesting story. btw, when Tokugawa Japan hunted Christians, they would test them with fumi-e, which were metal plates engraved with images of the Madonna or the Crucifixion. suspected Christians were asked to stamp their foot on it, and say they don't believe it; if they refused, they were outed, which meant torture and eventually execution for those who would not recant. >Imagine seething this hard over a statue. that's another aspect of Abrahamism -- iconoclasm, the tendency to censor, vandalize, and tear down works of art. it's not something seen in Dharmic religion, at least not to my knowledge.
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>>5166 >yes, Ashoka and Hitler were based. I've also heard that a seventh century emperor named Harshavardhana was based as well and similar in many respects to Ashoka in practicing religious tolerance, patronizing scholars, developing, providing his people some sort of medical and food aid and prohibiting the slaughter of an living on the pain of death without pardon. >Abrahamic faiths have certain inherent qualities -- the claim that they are the one and only truth, rejection of other belief systems, and xenophobic aggression by way of direct violence and/or subversion. much like Marxism, they are ideological viruses that want to infect the whole world, and the viral strategy must not be underestimated, given its deadly effectiveness in the natural world. I'm far from original in saying this, but Marxism fundamentally is Abrahamic, something which isn't surprising seeing how it leaked out the mind of a Semite - this can be seen in its man-centered doctrines, linear time, anti-nature (adharmic) dogma, exclusivistic fanaticism, utopias to come (heaven, full-developed communism, etc). These are ideologies almost wholly "in Time". Honestly I think that the Abrahamic / Dharmic dichotomy is fundamental for people in our circles to get a grasp on. It is becoming more well-known though, even if the terms are not the same. More and more are seeing that Christianity is not the vehicle for digging in our heels and taking any sort of "against Time" stance against the forces that wish to destroy us. >they would test them with fumi-e, which were metal plates engraved with images of the Madonna or the Crucifixion. suspected Christians were asked to stamp their foot on it, and say they don't believe it; if they refused, they were outed, which meant torture and eventually execution for those who would not recant. I never knew about this, that's very interesting, and somewhat ingenious as well. I've really been meaning to find a good book on the persecution of Christians in Japan here sometime soon. Although I understand that we unfortunately live in a much different time I have some interests in seeing what states did to fight Christianity in the past, such as under Diocletian with his edicts. Like we've said though, especially in the West, Christians cannot just be suppressed as it was back in the day. I will have to look for that documentary on the Hidden Christians you mentioned elsewhere in your post.
>>5174 >Marxism I've noticed the parallels for awhile. it does seem that Marxism is a secular form of Abrahamism. >Honestly I think that the Abrahamic / Dharmic dichotomy is fundamental for people in our circles to get a grasp on. indeed, and it's also important to understand how entrenched and pervasive the Abrahamic influence is. its assumptions color our modes of thought, and it takes effort to wrench away from the embedded concepts of sin, guilt, egalitarianism, subservience, and yes, bigotry. that last word is grossly overused by the current left, who as usual have mutated the meaning of the word. bigotry refers to hatred of those who are different, but more specifically, the original definition of bigotry is hatred of those who think differently. the classical bigot insists that only their views are correct, and is hostile, mocking, and violent towards any who disagree. this should sound strikingly familiar to anyone who has dealt with the Abrahamic religions and its secular form of Marxism. this can even be seen within those faiths, e.g. the KJV-only movement in Christianity. in Abrahamism, bigotry is the rule; in Dharmic religion it is the exception. >I never knew about this, that's very interesting, and somewhat ingenious as well. I've really been meaning to find a good book on the persecution of Christians in Japan here sometime soon. Although I understand that we unfortunately live in a much different time I have some interests in seeing what states did to fight Christianity in the past, such as under Diocletian with his edicts. Like we've said though, especially in the West, Christians cannot just be suppressed as it was back in the day. I will have to look for that documentary on the Hidden Christians you mentioned elsewhere in your post. there's various materials on the topic. I've seen a couple documentaries in fact, one of which records a ritual in which they use rice and sake instead of bread and wine. Diocletian was another based ruler. he couldn't undo the breakdown that was the Crisis of the Third Century, but his reforms still gave the Roman Empire another lease on life and put off the eventual collapse. a based future must draw from the dharmic traditions. Japan may have succeeded admirably against Abrahamism, but Christianity is simply too ingrained in the West, so even in the best case scenario we'll have to come to terms with it.
>>5188 (heil’d) >understand how entrenched and pervasive the Abrahamic influence is. its assumptions color our modes of thought, and it takes effort to wrench away from the embedded concepts of sin, guilt, egalitarianism, subservience, and yes, bigotry. This can’t be stressed enough, especially with its assumptions translated over to learning about other religions. Being Abrahamically-minded makes other religious traditions very difficult to understand, since all is viewed through this Abrahamic lens. I have had discussions with anons on /pol/ who would make fun of pagan traditions for not even having a holy book comparable to the Bible, as if this was fundamental to a true religious tradition. Sin is of course another, as is our conception of morality as a whole, as I think we talked about before with the Aryan ethics of virtue and the Abrahamic slave morality based upon duty regardless of circumstances or outcome. >a based future must draw from the dharmic traditions. Japan may have succeeded admirably against Abrahamism, but Christianity is simply too ingrained in the West, so even in the best case scenario we'll have to come to terms with it. Exactly – Japan did the right thing in their struggle against Christianity, luckily noticing at an early stage the threat that they posed for the established societal order, allowing them to essentially wipe it out and mitigate its influence beyond those small communities of Hidden Christians. The numbers we are dealing with today are magnitudes different, and the whole society, though more secular and less actively religious than in the past, is undeniably – like we’ve said – imbued with Christian influence or, at a higher level, pervasive Abrahamic influence. A more thoughtful and calculated approach will need to be taken, as we have discussed. I also think that it will take more time for an authentic Dharmic / pagan worldviews to re-anchor themselves in the West and become truly influential again. Dharmic ideas have, though, been influencing more and more the American cultural scene in particular for the last few decades, and this can only be expected to grow. Many New Age ideas (karma, reincarnation, vegetarianism to an extent etc) – though of course heavily distorted and misused – are Dharmic, yoga is Dharmic in origin (though again, distorted into merely the physical poses and made mundane, stripped of all spiritual meaning). I am admittedly unfamiliar with this milieu as it exists IRL currently, so I am unaware if neopagans produce anything of value beyond exoteric ritualism and social gatherings, but it is at least a step in the right direction. It will have to become far more sophisticated though to seriously compete on an intellectual level with the established mainstream religions though. Dharmic worldviews clearly hold this potential, as we know, but must find an outlet and fertile soil for this potential to be actualized. Even my own understanding could be greatly, greatly amplified, and in time I hope to make it far more sophisticated.

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Economics Blackshirt 02/11/2020 (Tue) 21:07:12 No.4574 [Reply] [Last]
I want to learn about economics. Particularly these topics: >Basic economics. >Pros and cons of nationalizing the banks and having your own currency. >Is State involvement bad? Is protectionism bad? >Why was Nazi Germany so economically successful? In the long term, was its policy really dependent on war? Please give me good reads on these matters. About state involvement and protectionism, right now I think that protectionism is not worth it. It is not convenient economically, and achieving autarky is basically impossible. At the same time, I think the State should get involved when necessary for the well-being of its citizens. Remove harmful products, help smart young men achieve what they're capable of, grant a good healthcare. I already have a position on this but it is simply based on feelings. I need to read about it.
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>>5181 >operation mockingbird >After the Watergate scandal in 1972–1974, the U.S. Congress became concerned over possible presidential abuse of the CIA. This concern reached its height when reporter Seymour Hersh published an exposé of CIA domestic surveillance in 1975.[8] Congress authorized a series of Congressional investigations into Agency activities from 1975 to 1976 Except a reporter published something about it and congress stepped in to investigate this however which effectively stopped any such activity from kicking off. Which shows how the press and the democratic institutions stopped that kind of activity. The government does try to influence public opinion I'm sure but it doesn't have a monopoly on media like in authoritarian states.
>>5181 I don't think it's just monied interests in power in democracies because how then do people like AOC or Sanders win elections? In democracies you either have a demagogue from the right or left, or you have a plutocrat from the monied class buying the election.
>>5189 >which effectively stopped any such activity from kicking off. You’re delusional if you think that this type of stuff does not continue. It’s just like with Cointelpro – it’s officially “over”, but evidence for Cointelpro-like tactics are ubiqitous in ZOG’s conduct towards white nationalist groups. >I'm sure but it doesn't have a monopoly on media like in authoritarian states Of course they don’t – but it’s wealthy Jewish interests which have a near monopoly on media and who often (almost always) work in tandem with ZOG. A media monopoly by the state would be very beneficial compared to what we have today, provided that it was under the control of a just government using it for the education of the people and not subversion as we see today. >how then do people like AOC or Sanders win elections? AOC is essentially an puppet / actress selected by the Justice Democrats – a PAC created by The Young Turks (who held auditions in 2017 for potential congressional candidates). She was quite literally nominated for her position. Watch the video below, which will explain why she is a puppet. The fact that any of us know her name is proof enough that she was astroturfed hard in the media. She’s the perfect puppet at as well – she’s a spic, a socialist and female, all while pushing status quo palatable positions. Sanders is as establishment as it gets outside of his “outsider” self-image, and has been sitting in the Senate for years. Again Sanders pushes ZOG-friendly talking points, maybe a bit ahead of the current place in their agenda, but ZOG-friendly nevertheless. Also like you sort of mentioned, Bernie in particular is the bread and circuses canidate. He’s the classical Jewish demagogue, placing himself at the head of the masses and promising all sorts of gibs. Even while formally eschewing “muh big donors” since these are well-known figures in positions that allow them visibility, ZOG lets them move forward and act, since the election of such a figure is not damaging to their interests, quite the contrary. The people, through public edjewcation and other means of conditioning have already been well-primed into kosher thinking for many decades now. If these people truly were opposed to the status quo – say if they were white nationalists – they would be memory-holed over night, never aired on TV and attacked by mobs. They would never even get elected. https://youtu.be/1h5iv6sECGU
>>5191 I should've said that it stopped that particular operation from continuing. I mean I'm sure the government would like to influence the media and public opinion I'm positive Trump wants to do just that. But I think believing in some covert plan to control shit is delusional. Just like mockingbird got outted that shit would get outted too sooner or later. I think AOC is a representative of left wing demagoguery which is what the Justice Democrats and TYT represent. I don't think Sanders is a representative of the status quo establishment simply because of his seniority/tenure. Being for the establishment is associated with being with the status quo. I think he's certainly a populistic outsider but certainly not a Eugene Debs or Huey Long. Either way both him and AOC are the gibs candidates which I think are on the opposite end of the spectrum from candidates in a Democracy. Gibs demagogues or monied interests both of which are shit which is way demagogues are shit.
>>5192 *which is why democracy is shit

The Woman Question Blackshirt 11/26/2019 (Tue) 14:30:00 ID: 26882c No.1613 [Reply] [Last]
What does /fascist/ think needs to be fixed in our society when it comes to the question of women, gender relations, marriage and their rights? Will women’s suffrage ever be repealed or is it too late to go back on some stuff?

In specific the following questions are the most important today, I feel
>modesty / clothing
>the age of consent
>women’s suffrage
>woman’s place in society
I of course have a position on all of these, but I don’t want to turn the OP into a blogpost
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>>4374 > I know futurism is “our” thing F V T U R I S T S wanted to fe Fascism's oficial A E S T H E T I C, while they did permeate a lot they were never official. Plus, Fascism is flexible Like you're mom. It can take manny forms and be found everywhere, I've being thinking about it, In manny cultures and religions there is always some mythical figure that bridges men and the Gods, someone who rises above the mundane and becomes a model. I will make a thread about this. >>4968 This is the right approach. Good women are rare, but they do exist, it is just that good people in general are rare these days. Instead of creating a society around controlling bad excuses for women –And ignoring that most men are just as bad– we should focus on promoting the existence good strong women and creating a society that takes them into account, no need for control when they by themselves will work for the betterment of society. Men should seek women on their level, not the first female that shows submission confusing it for respect, the later are usually weak and not fit to even take care of themselves, I can see why manny have such low expectations for women. Although, I would not put such a strong emphasis on genes, most of our problems are cultural, genes are not definitive and only make you more likely to be a certain way (You can see this with experiments involving twins raised in different conditions) and no amount of gene-editing will save you when your parents did not raise you right. Also ==DON'T USE « BREEDING » WHEN REFFERING TO HUMAN

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>>4987 > no amount of gene-editing will save you when your parents did not raise you right. Factually wrong. Look up twins separated at birth, look at niglets adopted by whites - there barely any difference in outcomes. Genetics are almost everything. 80%+ It makes a lot of sense to refer to "breeding" as breeding. Human is ascended but still a beast and many people need to get this idea into their heads. In terms of eugenics we are no different to animals we breed with specific goals in mind.
>>4987 Breeding is perfect when referring to dysgenic niggercattle that keeps pumping out unwanted kids. There is a good reason guys over on /r9k/ call them mindless breedgroids. >>5168 Between different species it's obvious but these studies have a flawed methodology that looks only at parents instead of entire environments these kids are raised in. Twins separated at birth end up in families selected by government officials, which all meet the same set of criteria. Adopted kids also end up in the very same schooling system which is designed to turn them into soulless golems. We definitely would benefit from healthier relationships, both familial bonds and local community interactions. Ascended humans look like the next step in evolution, since they think things through instead of acting on muh dik instincts. It's worth looking into Vernadsky's concept of noosphere, that's ascended lifeforms beginning to take control of their biological reality and consciously assisting their own evolution. And mental evolution is definitely a thing.
>>4987 >Although, I would not put such a strong emphasis on genes Genes literally define genders and their characteristics. We have both codes (man - woman), it's just that one code is seriously underdeveloped because it was never exposed to evolutionary pressure forcing it to develop. Nurture plays a smaller part, but you are brown so it's expected of you to focus on that kek. Culture is a civnat meme and belongs in the oven along with it's (((promoters))) . I'd prefer to live around white people with shitty culture over non-whites with "better" culture (this was of course never demonstrated in practice because subhuman genes = subhuman culture) No offense, but you should at least strive to be white, in next life at least. I'm not exactly the blonde Germanic myself, but I know to recognize beauty and quality when I see it.
>>5183 >but you should at least strive to be white, in next life at least How is it possible for a shitskin to try to better himself when all he see around him are shitskins? E. G. Friends and family.

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Most worthy successors Blackshirt 02/25/2020 (Tue) 04:36:00 ID: 8ede46 No.5105 [Reply] [Last]
In your opinion, who would you prefer to be the successor to fascist leaders? In my opinion for Hitler i favor three with them being Goebbels, Himmler and Heydrich if he avoided death with Heydrich being my most preferred candidate, and for Mussolini it would have been a choice between Italo Balbo if he avoided death, and Evola, with Evola being my most preferred candidate. I would have also chosen Gabriele D'Annunzio as a potential one but he would have died before Mussolini no matter what.
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>>5150 Apparently Goering became the Übermensch once he was off his funny pills and it was very difficult for the judge to persecute him
>>5155 Not surprising, considering Goring had an IQ of 138.
>>5156 Almost all of the great National Socialists had extremely high, near genius-level IQs, and I’m not surprised. I’d be very interested in knowing Hitler’s, Himmler’s and Goebbels’.
>>5169 It really makes me sad sometimes that I couldn't partake in the genius of those people. They are among those who came closest to being the Ubermensch in recorded history, carving their destiny from the bottom up (most of them didn't come from wealthy or influential families) and they opposed the oldest, most powerful, and most dangerous mafia in existence, fighting it's golems simultaneously. Living without having an opportunity to be a part of such a movement is a tragedy.
>>5182 >Living without having an opportunity to be a part of such a movement is a tragedy. The best we can hope for is to honor their legacy and seek to find where the next blooming of Aryan rebirth – and with it men like this – will occur.

Read the Bhagavad Gita, white man Blackshirt 10/15/2019 (Tue) 00:19:55 ID: 120dce No.385 [Reply] [Last]
EMBRACE ARYAN SPIRITUALITY
You need to read the Bhagavad Gita right now, anons. Drop whatever you're reading and pick it up.

Before a great battle, the Aryan warrior prince Arjuna suddenly loses his nerve at the prospects of killing his enemy, among whom are his friends and family. Arjuna thinks that participating this in battle would upset the balance of caste, family and dharma. Conflicted, he asks his friend Krishna (who is an avatar of God) for guidance. Riding out into the battlefield in a chariot, the focus on the external battle turns to the inner battle within Arjuna himself

What does Krishna tell his friend? Does he tell him to love his enemies and turn the other cheek like Yeshua bar Yosef tought? No, of course not, Krishna drops redpills, telling him to stop running away from his duty as a warrior. The soul is immortal and unkillable, there is nothing to lament if he does his duty, killing his friends and family. The soul will simply be reborn, the former body discarded. This must be done in a disciplined and disattached manner in the service of the Supreme Lord. Goyim will write paragraphs trying to explain away the Sermon on the Mount, or how Jesus called gentiles dogs, always failing. Christians know how bad this shit looks on them. Embrace Aryan spirituality.
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>>5163 Jiva shakti being krishna is laughably absurd, and rightfully so because thats not even what the fucking book says. The word used is jivabhutam in 7.5, not jivashakti. Saying that i only see krishna as material because i insist he is a person is a strawman and also laughably stupid and contradictory. Atma=person person=/=body. In the bhagavad gita krishna states he is beyond material form and i know this because unlike you are continuing to prove, i have read the FAQ
>>5167 Just go back to discussing what colour the dude was and save the larger concepts for others with a brain. Cya moron.
>>5170 >>5170 Says the brainless moron after his every point has been disproven. >yeah well prove it >stop proving it, moron >*drools on self* ^^you
Isnt vedic religion the ultimate blackpill anyway? Since they all say the world is going to end and everything we fight for is for naught in the end? Why should we worship vishnu or any vedic god when its gods will that civilization descends from the golden age of satya yuga to the age of kali? If kali yuga is the plan of god and its perpetuated by jews doesnt that make the vedic god responsible for the jews success and the downfall of europe?
>>5180 Cosmic cycles are infinitely recurring. The Kali Yuga is not eternal and will inevitably end, ushering in the Satya Yuga anew, followed again by a slow involution once again from the form of existence most in harmony with the Divine ideal. Satya, Treta, Dvapara, Kali — again and again and again. One cycle is merely one Mahāyuga. Viewed from one perspective you could see Time as blackpilling and how nothing lasts forever in this world. The Gita drives this home in my favorite chapter, chapter 11: <The Supreme Lord said: I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. Even without your participation, the warriors arrayed in the opposing army shall cease to exist. Verses before this some members of the opposing side are said to be grinded in the teeth of God (another metaphor for ephemerality and time) and the warriors are said to be like a river flowing swiftly into the ocean, or like moths into a flame. This is certainly blackpilling to the materialist atheist – as it is true regardless of how one may protest otherwise – Mountains wear down, material goods wear out or are lost or stolen, and all beings age and die. The gross form of the body changes relatively slowly, but the matter which composes it is replaced as one eats, excretes and sheds skin cells. We have dharmas to fulfill here on Earth though, opportunities for great spiritual growth, eternal souls — there is nothing blackpilling in this. I unironically advise you to read The Lightning and The Sun as soon as possible to make sense of everything. >If kali yuga is the plan of god and its perpetuated by jews doesnt that make the vedic god responsible for the jews success and the downfall of europe? Jews are just another aspect of the Kali Yuga, yes. They will be annihilated in time though: “Whenever there is a decline in righteousness (dharma) and an increase in unrighteousness (adharma), O Arjuna, at that time I manifest myself on earth. To protect the righteous, to annihilate the wicked, and to reestablish the principles of dharma I appear on this earth, age after age.”

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Anti-Tech, Deep Ecology, National Anarchism, Ecofascism Blackshirt 08/30/2019 (Fri) 22:10:40 ID: 4dbb92 No.31 [Reply] [Last]
I think it would be best this time around to merge deep ecology and anti-tech into a single thread since there is so much overlap. Old thread archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190804033752/https://8ch.net/fascist/res/13412.html CORE READING > The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul > Industrial Society and Its Future by Theodore J. Kaczynski > Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How? by Theodore J. Kaczynski > Can Life Prevail? by Pentti Linkola > The Collapse of Complex Societies by Joseph A. Tainter OTHER GOOD READS > The Riddle of Amish Culture by Donald Kraybill (gives good insight into why the Amish do what they do and how it helps preserve stable, close knit communities lacking many of the defects of the degenerate secular world). > Ecodefense: A Field Guide to Monkeywrenching by Dave Foreman > The NS Kindred Experiment

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At what point do we go innawoods? My state has no cases yet but it seems like you can't know where this shit will pop up next. I've gotta shitty cabin 40 minutes from my house I'm planning to fuck off to quick if this starts to get worse. https://archive.md/kJK0T Start prepping.
>>5144 >Americans need to prepare for disruptions to their daily lives, including school closings, working from home Oh the horror of life as it used to be in the past. You should get out of the city before niggercattle starts moving around and obstructing traffic at chokepoints.
>>5129 >>5130 Are those books worth a read? I am actually surprised he didn't have mein kampf. Speaking of that, what are Ted's views on Hitler and National Socialism?
>>5162 I haven’t read 95% of those but some of the Greek and Roman works he has on there are good, like Herodotus’ Histories, Taciticus’, The Twelve Caesars, etc. I’ve always heard good things about The Brothers Karamazov too, but I haven’t read that. Out of everything listed on that list though the most immediately relevant to this thread is Jacques Ellul’s The Technological Society. It’s important to remember that ISAIF was written precisely to be a dumbed down version of Ellul that normalfags could readily understand and get a grasp on, since Ellul’s book’s like 400 pages long and fairly dense at times. It’s well worth the read and really deepens the understanding of the problem we face, though ISAIF and Ted’s other works are still fantastic introductions and good stand-alone material by themselves of course. >what are Ted's views on Hitler and National Socialism? At the very least we know that he thinks that anti-racism measures are a direct product of the globalized technological society to make sure the system continues to run efficiently without people disliking each other based on racial differences and place of origin. He understands equality to be simply the elimination of all social differences not useful to the technological system and degeneracy to be rising because our freedom has been curtailed in so many other ways and we need an outlet because the system fucks people up so hard. He wouldn’t be a fan of Hitler probably. He’s anti-statist, just like Ellul. Not in a childish way, they bring some heavy-hitting ideas to the table in regards to it, though I don’t wholly agree. States / tribal groups are natural to man in my opinion, but the modern state is a much more sinister and controlling thing, often directly hostile to its own native population. Both of those figures are super wary of any sort of eugenics as well
Has anyone here heard of or read Jorian Jenks? He was a member of the British Union of Fascists who I just learned about from reading this interview: https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/04/robert-stark-interviews-greg-johnson-on-eco-fascism-2/ He was apparently a farmer and a close friend of Mosley who advocated for protection of the wilderness, organic farming and independence from foreign food imports. His book is called “Spring Comes Again”. I will definitely be reading this in a few months. I was unaware that Mosley’s movement had currents like this within it, though I cannot say I am surprised! This sort of thinking is a natural corollary of the fascistic worldview.

Individual Fascism Blackshirt 02/22/2020 (Sat) 22:59:04 ID: a706b3 No.4994 [Reply] [Last]
There has being an idea floating around my heat lately. Manny cultures and religions speak of an ideal man, someone above the common and mundane folk who we should all strive to be like >Übermensch >Christ >Samurai >Quetzalcóatl >Buddha These are all titles –usually related to a single individual– that speak of an elevated being in human form, sometimes a demi-God or a proper God who lives among humans, usually order to teach others. These are also all said to come back one day. I call myself a Christian, but my interpretation of « The second coming of Christ » does not mean that Jesus Christ himself will come down from the heavens, but instead that we all will become humans worthy of the « Christ » title. Nietzsche also formulated the idea of Der Übermensch as something us humans should work towards to. It is my interpretation that Fascism's main mission is not to bring vulgar economic reforms or to restructure the State to fit collectivizing theories; but to bring this type of human back into the world, to install something to the individual, from the every-day man who runs the local bakery to the leader of the nation, which would then cascade up to the family, community, state and nation. Yes, this may need political, social and economic reforms –we live in a mundane world after all, we are subjected to mundane systems–, but I am not immediately interested in how to reach this state of being, but what is this state. So I make this thread with the non-pretentious, non-controversial and simple task of Defining the ideal man; The Fascist Man. Only after we define it we can start talking about how can we get there >What is the fascism man >What values define him >What examples can we find to compare from
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>>5026 >Junzi Another one to the list, while the idea of the « Ideal man » is a no-brainer it sure seems more common than expected. > It’s also more of an inner disposition than someone merely following “rules” to appear a certain way, at least ideally. That is another aspect, someone who is able to understand rules and follows them because he understands them, but is willing to break them in some cases >>5025 > there is such a thing as natural born leaders as there are thinkers and creators People come in all types, some made to be leaders, other follow. Manny fetishize the leader, seeing him as peak human, in actuality leaders —directorial positions—are people more fit for mental work, managers are split between mental and physical and workers are entirely physical. All are important and it is desirable for leaders to be rare, imagine a society made up exclusively of leaders, their minds would be wasted and manny are unfit for labour, in a professional kitchen you will find that cooks are usually more physical capable than the chef, chefs are usually slower that those he leads. So if we are to create blueprint for an ideal man we should not make it leader-specific.
The ideal fascist is simply the man who strives for the best for his people and his nation, and acts accordingly.
>>5027 >Manny fetishize the leader, seeing him as peak human In many ways the ideal leader is simultaneously the ideal man and peak human. Many ancient traditions have recognized the importance of the perfection of leadership, its need for a virtuous underpinning and how they can serve as a great example for all of society. We have already discussed the Junzi - a term which, while referring to an exemplary man, refers at its highest to a virtuous king, about whom it is said: Analects 12:19 <“Lead them with government and regulate them by punishments, and the people will evade them with no sense of shame. Lead them with virtue and regulate them by ritual, and they will acquire a sense of shame—and moreover, they will be orderly” Analects 2:1 <The Master said: 'the practice of government by means of virtue may be compared with the pole-star, which the multitudinous stars pay homage to while it stays in its place'. Analects 2:3 <“Lead them with government and regulate them by punishments, and the people will evade them with no sense of shame. Lead them with virtue and regulate them by ritual, and they will acquire a sense of shame—and moreover, they will be orderly” We can see similar ideas in the Bhagavad Gita: BG 3.21 - <Whatever action is performed by a great man, common men follow in his footsteps. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, all the world pursues. Outside of texts like these, we can see this in practice with people like Adolf Hitler, whose self-discipline was often used to great effect in propaganda in the Third Reich. The leader is the most important figure in setting standards for the people, and anything less than perfection is detrimental to the nation. This is why the focus on them is often so heavy
>>5030 Of course the leader is important, but what I am saying is that his is just another position like any other. It requires special skills, but every positions does. Think about this, secretaries are usually more organized and less forgetful than most leaders, they take mundane and robotic tasks away from the leader which need its own group of perfected abilities in order to fulfill, so he can concentrate in matters that only he can do, take this secretary away from the leader and manny are no longer able to function. Governments are organizations, systems, manny elements interacting, we should not overlook positions simply because they are less romanticized. While it is true that the priority should be having a good leader we should not stop with him. My Vision is not a peak human ruling over a bunch of animals, I want a peak leader ruling over peak administrators and peak workers. If it is possible we would make axions which would adapt to these three types of people, or we would have to make three different sets if we find out that these differences are too basal.
>>5153 >Of course the leader is important, but what I am saying is that his is just another position like any other. It requires special skills, but every positions does. I don’t know if we can just describe the leader’s position as “just another position like any other”. In the world of Tradition, the king (or analogous term) is essential for the protection of the people, the maintenance of the social order through caste / racial boundaries and the administration of justice and punishment. The king is the intermediary between the eternal cosmic law of dharma and its worldly manifestation in justice. This is why the Traditional king is seen as quite literally “divine”, or at least as a conduit for this power. Without a proper leader we are looking at a body without a head. You’re of course completely right about what you say about the importance of subordinate figures in the government Now that I wrote this looking at the rest of your post you seem to affirm the priority of a good leader, but I think what I wrote is important in a general sense so I’ll leave it be. >My Vision is not a peak human ruling over a bunch of animals, I want a peak leader ruling over peak administrators and peak workers. Of course, like the earlier posts said, the moral and virtuous conduct of the king / leader is important for imbuing the rest of society with such an atmosphere, educating them and serving as an example for all while serving as “Pole Star” for all others (which is what the Swastika symbolizes) to revolve. There will of course be a gradation of individuals in quality, at the lowest those of a mostly animalistic degraded nature as we see in any society, but many, I think, at least with the propaganda organs shut down and given a more positive role, would welcome a return of proper leadership.

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